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Red Car
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:00 pm
by Matty11
gone to publ land
Re: Instinctive
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:27 pm
by Colm Roe
Snow in Wales! That's global warming for you
Nice read; love
the clean poverty of snow.
Re: Instinctive
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:31 pm
by Matty11
Thanks Colm. The weather I fear here are the winds. We needed a roofer this week. Mr Tiley!
cheers
Phil
Re: Wealth
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:36 am
by Deb
Matty, I like this.
"A beetle black night of worry" and "the poverty of snow" are both beautifully descriptive in a unique sense. Double points on both.
On the third read, it was a little humorous to me, although I can see it is not from your point of view. I would LOVE some snow but I don't have to drive in it in the pitch of the night and would worry sick if my loved ones had to drive in unsuspected snow.
~Deb
Re: Wealth
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:39 pm
by Matty11
Thanks Deb for the points. Yes, humour on the outside looking-in
cheers
Phil
Re: Wealth
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:16 pm
by Tracy Mitchell
No cats
I looked at moving "Muted songbirds and no cats" to the conclusion of the poem. Pluses and minuses, but I did like the progression. My only thought is take a look-see yourself.
One winter when I was young and dumb I lived in an apartment in Fargo, ND, and rented a parking lot slot for my 1967 ford. Good lord was that a lot of shoveling, most of it in the dark. And cold. And it being Fargo - wind as well. Getting the engine to turn over was another story entirely. Â
I lied - it turns out I have a second thought -- consider how S.1. L.2 reads without the pronoun "I". Â
Cheers.
T
Re: Wealth
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:19 pm
by TrevorConway
Hi Phil,
Like Deb, the beetle black night and clean poverty of snow worked well. The latter really made me stand up and take notice. I don't see how the title relates to the context, not that a title always has to clearly relate to the content.
A few specific suggestions/comments below.
Hope they help,
Trev
A beetle black night ["beetle-black"?]
of worry and I work ["and working"?]
in the clean poverty
of snow.
Songbirds mute and no cats. [The description here feel flat/lazy compared to the first verse. Anything more inventive coming to mind? "Songbirds are solid of throat"?]
I clear the drive
and car, my face
flushed and puzzled. [Flushed and puzzled at what? Maybe others understand, but not clear to me anyway]
Re: Wealth
Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:23 am
by Matty11
Thanks Trev and T.
I intended this to be a climate change poem. Extreme weather (the pivot lines of cat/birds to imply this). The title relates to what we value ie cars. I was hoping the fact the snow is so deep there would be no clearing of roads. Hence the puzzlement... and perhaps a reflection by N. on what is valued. Of course, there is the instinctive...man has spade, man must dig
cheers
Phil
Re: Instinctive
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:06 am
by AlienFlower
Phil,
With your Big Picture in mind (of Climate Change) I’m seeing the word puzzling as N wondering at his own behavior—what his instinct made him do. I had assumed on the first read that the songbirds were quiet because of the night, but thinking Climate Change, it’s the unexpected wintry weather? And are these feral cats? Do they shy from snow?
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"Beetle black" works for me because the alliteration tells me it’s intense, but I don’t actually think of beetles as always black.
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I love shoveling our drive before dawn, and was stunned at how sharp and cold that image came back to me with your clean poverty of snow. Really nice. The whole poem, in fact, is a lovely moment in time.
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How can you make your Big Picture a tad more obvious?
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Jackie
Re: Instinctive
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:52 am
by Matty11
How can you make your Big Picture a tad more obvious?
I don't know Jackie. I tried some title changes:
wealth the priority being the car rather than the climate. The extreme weather indicated no animal/bird ventures forth and a pointlessness in the activity ie so extreme that all the roads are closed. Perhaps I'll foreground that fact.
Yes, there is something compulsive in snow shoveling
cheers
Phil